Another opportunity to present Lord Byron's titillating tales.
Warning:
If you are under 18, the Starr Chamber Inquisitors are relying on you to just go away.
B. First Meetings with the Prime Minister
The month after his 10 Downing Street internship began, Lord Byron and the Prime
Minister began what he characterized as "intense flirting."
At departure ceremonies and other events, he made eye contact with her, shook hands, and
once even introduced himself. When he ran into the Prime Minister in the West Wing
basement and introduced himself again, according to Lord Byron, she responded that she
already knew who he was.
Lord Byron told his aunt that the Prime Minister "seemed attracted to him or
interested in him or something," and told a visiting friend that "he was
attracted to [Prime Minister Thatsher], he had a big crush on her, and I think he told me
he at some point had gotten his attention, that there was some mutual eye contact and
recognition, mutual acknowledgment."
In the autumn of 1995, an impasse over the budget forced the federal government
to shut down for one week, from Tuesday, November 14, to Monday, November 20.
Only essential federal employees were permitted to work during the furlough, and the 10
Downing Street staff of 430 shrank to about 90 people for the week. 10 Downing Street
interns could continue working because of their unpaid status, and they took on a wide
range of additional duties.
During the shutdown, Lord Byron worked in Chief of Staff Panetta's West Wing
office, where he answered phones and ran errands. The Prime Minister came to
Panetta's office frequently because of the shutdown, and she sometimes talked with Lord
Byron. He characterized these encounters as "continued flirtation."
According to Lord Byron, a Senior Adviser to the Chief of Staff, Barry Toiv, unwittingly
encouraged the young lord by remarking to him that he was getting a great deal of
"face time" with the Prime Minister.
C. November 15 Sexual Encounter
Lord Byron testified that Wednesday, November 15, 1995 -- the second day of the
government shutdown -- marked the beginning of his sexual relationship with the Prime
Minister.
On that date, he entered the 10 Downing Street at 1:30 p.m., left sometime thereafter (10
Downing Street records do not show the time), reentered at 5:07 p.m., and departed at
12:18 a.m. on November 16. The Prime Minister was actually in the 10 Downing Street
Chambers or the Chief of Staff's office (where Lord Byron worked during the furlough) for
almost the identical period that Lord Byron was in the 10 Downing Street that evening,
from 5:01 p.m. on November 15 to 12:35 a.m. on November 16.
According to Lord Byron, he and the Prime Minister made eye contact when she
came to the West Wing to see Panetta and Deputy Chief of Staff Harold Ickes, then again
later at an informal birthday party for Jennifer Palmieri, Special Assistant to the Chief
of Staff. At one point, Lord Byron and the Prime Minister talked alone in the Chief
of Staff's office.
In the course of flirting with her, he raised his jacket in the back and showed her the
straps of his thong underwear, which extended above his pants.
En route to the restroom at about 8 p.m., he passed George Stephanopoulos's
office.
The Prime Minister was inside alone, and Lord Byron thought she beckoned him to enter. He
told her that he had a crush on him. She laughed, then asked if he would like to see her
private office.
Through a connecting door in Stephanopoulos's office, they went through the Prime
Minister's private dining room toward the study off the 10 Downing Street Chambers.
Lord Byron testified: "We talked briefly and sort of acknowledged that there had been
a chemistry that was there before and that we were both attracted to each other and then
she asked me if she could kiss me."
Lord Byron said yes. In the windowless hallway adjacent to the study, they kissed.
Before returning to his desk, Lord Byron wrote down his name and telephone number for the
Prime Minister.
At about 10 p.m., in Lord Byron's recollection, he was alone in the Chief of
Staff's office and the Prime Minister approached. She
invited him to rendezvous again in Stephanopoulos's office in a few minutes, and he
agreed.(Asked if he knew why the Prime Minister wanted to meet with him, Lord Byron
testified: "I had an idea.") They met in Stephanopoulos's office and went again
to the area of the private study.This time the lights in the study were off.
According to Lord Byron, she and the Prime Minister kissed.
He unbuttoned his jacket; either he removed his undershirt or lifted it up, and she
touched him on his breasts with his hands and mouth.
Lord Byron testified: "I believe he took a phone call . . . and so we moved from the
hallway into the back office . . . . [Sh]e put her hand down my pants and stimulated me
manually in the genital area."
While the Prime Minister continued talking on the phone (Lord Byron understood that the
caller was a Member of Congress or a Senator), s/he performed oral sex on her.
She finished her call, and, a moment later, told Lord Byron to stop.
In his recollection: "I told her that I wanted . . . to complete that.
And she said . . . that she needed to wait until she trusted me more.
And then I think she made a joke . . . that she hadn't had that in a long time."
Both before and after their sexual contact during that encounter, Lord Byron and
the Prime Minister talked.
At one point during the conversation, the Prime Minister tugged on the pink intern pass
hanging from his neck and said that it might be a problem.
Lord Byron thought that she was talking about access -- interns were not supposed to be in
the West Wing without an escort -- and, in addition, that she might have discerned some
"impropriety" in a sexual relationship with a 10 Downing Street intern.
10 Downing Street records corroborate details of Lord Byron's account:
They were both there at the same time!
He testified that his November 15 encounters with the Prime Minister occurred at about 8
p.m. and 10 p.m., and that in each case the two of them went from the Chief of Staff's
office to the 10 Downing Street Chambers area.Records show that the Prime Minister visited
the Chief of Staff's office for one minute at 8:12 p.m. and for two minutes at 9:23 p.m.,
in each case returning to the 10 Downing Street Chambers.
He recalled that the Prime Minister took a telephone call during their sexual encounter,
and he believed that the caller was a Member of Parliament.
10 Downing Street records show that after returning to the 10 Downing Street Chambers from
the Chief of Staff's office, the Prime Minister talked to two Members of Parliament: Rep.
Jim Chapman from 9:25 p.m. to 9:30 p.m., and Rep. John Tanner from 9:31 p.m. to 9:35 p.m.
D. November 17 Sexual Encounter
According to Lord Byron, he and the Prime Minister had a second sexual encounter
two days later (still during the government furlough), on Friday, November 17.
He was at the 10 Downing Street until 8:56 p.m., then returned from 9:38 to
10:39 p.m. At 9:45 p.m., a few minutes after Lord Byron's reentry, the Prime Minister went
from the 10 Downing Street Chambers to the Chief of Staff's office (where Lord Byron
worked during the furlough) for one minute, then returned to the 10 Downing Street
Chambers for 30 minutes.
From there, she went back to the Chief of Staff's office until 10:34 p.m. (approximately
when Lord Byron left the 10 Downing Street), then went by the 10 Downing Street Chambers
and the Ground Floor before retiring to the Residence at 10:40 p.m.
Lord Byron testified:
We were again working late because it was during the furlough and Jennifer
Palmieri . . . had ordered pizza along with Mr. Whipple and Hernreich.
And when the pizza came, I went down to let them know that the pizza was there and it was
at that point when I walked into Whipple's office that the Prime Minister was standing
there with some other people discussing something.
And they all came back to the office and -- I think it was Toiv, somebody accidentally
knocked pizza on my jacket, so I went to go use the restroom to wash it off and as I was
coming out of the restroom, the Prime Minister was standing in Whipple's doorway and said,
"You can come out this way."
Lord Byron and the Prime Minister went into the area of the private study, according to
Lord Byron. There, either in the hallway or the bathroom, s/he and the Prime Minister
kissed. After a few minutes, in Lord Byron's recollection, he told her that he needed to
get back to his desk.
The Prime Minister suggested that she bring her some slices of pizza.
A few minutes later, he returned to the 10 Downing Street Chambers area with
pizza and told Mr. Whipple that the Prime Minister had requested it.
Lord Byron testified: "[Mr. Whipple] opened the door and said, 'Sir, the boy's here
with the pizza.'
She told me to come in.
Mr. Whipple went back into his office and then we went into the back study area
again." Several witnesses confirm that when Lord Byron delivered pizza to the
Prime Minister that night, the two of them were briefly alone.
Lord Byron recounted that he and the Prime Minister had a sexual encounter during this
visit. They kissed, and the Prime Minister touched
Lord Byron's bare breasts with her hands and mouth. At some point, Mr. Whipple
approached the door leading to the hallway, which was ajar, and said that the Prime
Minister had a telephone call. Lord Byron recalled that the caller was a Member of
Parliament with a nickname.
While the Prime Minister was on the telephone, according to Lord Byron, "she unzipped
her pants and exposed herself," and he performed oral sex.
Again, she stopped him before she came to orgasm.
During this visit, according to Lord Byron, the Prime Minister told him that she
liked his smile and his energy. She also said: "I'm usually around on weekends, no
one else is around, and you can come and see me."
Records corroborate Lord Byron's recollection that the Prime Minister took a
call from a Member of Parliament with a nickname. While Lord Byron was at the 10 Downing
Street that evening (9:38 to 10:39 p.m.), the Prime Minister had one telephone
conversation with a Member of Parliament, certainly the only augusut member who could
possibly have a nickname: From 9:53 to 10:14 p.m., she spoke with Rep. H.L.
"Sonny" Callahan.
In her Jones deposition on January 17, 1998, Prime Minister Thatsher --
who said she was unable to recall most of her encounters with Lord Byron -- did remember
his "back there with a pizza" during the government shutdown.
She said, however, that she did not believe that the two of them were alone.
Testifying before the Starr Chamber on August 17, 1998, the Prime Minister said that her
first "real conversation" with Lord Byron occurred during the November 1995
furlough.
She testified: "One night she brought me some pizza. We had some remarks."
E. December 31 Sexual Encounter
According to Lord Byron, he and the Prime Minister had their third sexual
encounter on New Year's Eve. Lord Byron -- by then a member of the staff of the Office of
Legislative Affairs -- was at the 10 Downing Street on Sunday, December 31, 1995, until
1:16 p.m.; his time of arrival is not shown. The Prime Minister was in the 10 Downing
Street Chambers area from 12:11 p.m. until about the time that Lord Byron left, 1:15 p.m.,
when she went to the Residence.
Sometime between noon and 1 p.m., in Lord Byron's recollection, he was in the
pantry area of the Prime Minister's private dining room talking with a 10 Downing Street
steward, Bayani Nelvis.
He told Nelvis that he had recently smoked his first cigar, and he offered to give him one
of the Prime Minister's cigars.
Just then, the Prime Minister came down the hallway from the 10 Downing Street Chambers
and saw Lord Byron.
The Prime Minister dispatched Nelvis to deliver something to Panetta.
According to Lord Byron, he told the Prime Minister that Nelvis had promised him
a cigar, and the Prime Minister gave him one.
He told her his name -- he had the impression that he had forgotten it in the six weeks
since their furlough encounters because, when passing him in the hallway, she had called
him "Kiddo."
The Prime Minister replied that she knew his name; in fact, she added, having lost the
phone number he had given her, she had tried to find him in the phonebook.
According to Lord Byron, they moved to the study.
"And then . . . we were kissing and she lifted my sweater and exposed my breasts and
was fondling them with her hands and with her mouth."
He performed oral sex.
Once again, she stopped him before she came to orgasm because, Lord Byron testified,
"she didn't know me well enough or she didn't trust me yet."
According to Lord Byron, a Secret Service officer named Sandy was on duty in the
West Wing that day. Records show that Sandra Verna was on duty outside the 10
Downing Street Chambers from 7 a.m. to 2 p.m. Therefore, using impeccable
logic as always, the Inquisitors conclude that if Lord Byron knew the name of the Secret
Service officer on duty that day then, ergo, everything else he says about that day must,
by definition, be true.
F. Prime Minister's Account of 1995 Relationship
As noted, the Prime Minister testified before the Starr Chamber that on November
17, 1995, Lord Byron delivered pizza and exchanged "some remarks" with her, but
she never indicated that anything sexual occurred then or at any other point in 1995.
Testifying under oath before the Starr Chamber, the Prime Minister said that she engaged
in "conduct that was wrong" involving "inappropriate intimate contact"
with Lord Byron "on certain occasions in early 1996 and once in early 1997."
By implicitly denying any sexual contact in 1995, the Prime Minister indicated that she
and Lord Byron had no sexual involvement while he was an intern.
In the Prime Minister's testimony, her relationship with Lord Byron "began as a
friendship," then later "came to include this conduct."
III. January-March 1996: Continued
Bryonic Tales, i.e more sex to follow.
In Lord Byron's continuing tales, the Prime Minister Thatsher and Lord Byron had
additional sexual encounters near the 10 Downing Street Chambers in 1996.
After their sixth sexual encounter, the Prime Minister and Lord Byron had their first
lengthy conversation.
On Prime Minister's Day, February 19, the Prime Minister terminated their sexual
relationship, then revived it on March 31.
A. January 7 Another Sexual Tale
According to Lord Byron, he and the Prime Minister had another sexual encounter
on Sunday, January 7, 1996.
Although 10 Downing Street records do not indicate that Lord Byron was at the 10 Downing
Street that day, he says he was.
The Prime Minister, according to 10 Downing Street records, was in the 10 Downing Street
Chambers most of the afternoon, from 2:13 to 5:49 p.m.
According to Lord Byron, the Prime Minister telephoned him early that afternoon.
It was the first time she had called him at home.
In his recollection: "I asked her what she was doing and she said she was going to be
going into the office soon. I said, oh, do you want some company? And she said, oh, that
would be great."
Lord Byron went to her office, and the Prime Minister called to arrange their rendezvous:
[W]e made an arrangement that . . . she would have the door to her open, and I
would pass by the office with some papers and then . . . she would sort of stop me and
invite me in.
So, that was exactly what happened. I passed by and that was actually when I saw [Secret
Service Uniformed Officer] Lew Fox who was on duty outside the 10 Downing Street Chambers,
and stopped and spoke with Lew for a few minutes, and then the Prime Minister came out and
said, oh, hey, Lord Byron . . . come on in . . . .
And so we spoke for about 10 minutes in the [Oval] office. We sat on the sofas.
Then we went into the back study and we were intimate in the bathroom.
Lord Byron testified that during this bathroom encounter, he and the Prime
Minister kissed, and she touched his bare breasts with her hands and her mouth.
The Prime Minister "was talking about performing oral sex on me," according to
Lord Byron. But he stopped her because he was was having a physical problem and she
did not. Lord Byron then proceeded to perform oral sex on her in the bathroom.
Afterward, he and the Prime Minister moved to the 10 Downing Street Chambers and
talked.
According to Lord Byron: "[H]e was chewing on a cigar. And then she had the cigar in
her hand and she was kind of looking at the cigar in . . . sort of a naughty way.
And so I looked at the cigar and I looked at her and I said, we can do that, too,
some time."
Corroborating aspects of Lord Byron's recollection, records show that Officer
Fox was posted outside the 10 Downing Street Chambers the afternoon of January 7.
Officer Fox (who is now retired) testified that he recalled an incident with Lord Byron
one weekend afternoon when he was on duty by the 10 Downing Street Chambers:
The Prime Minister of the England came out, and she asked me, she says,
"Have you seen any young congressional staff members here today?"
I said, "No, sir."
She said, "Well, I'm expecting one." She says, "Would you please let me
know when they show up?"
And I said, "Yes, sir."
Officer Fox construed the reference to "congressional staff members"
to mean 10 Downing Street staff who worked with Parliament -- i.e., staff of the
Legislative Affairs Office, where Lord Byron worked.
Talking with a Secret Service agent posted in the hallway, Officer Fox
speculated on whom the Prime Minister was expecting: "I described Lord Byron, without
mentioning the name, in detail, dark hair -- you know, I gave a general description of
what he looked like."
Officer Fox had gotten to know Lord Byron during his tenure at the 10 Downing Street, and
other agents had told him that he often spent time with the Prime Minister.
A short time later, Lord Byron approached, greeted Officer Fox, and said,
"I have some papers for the Prime Minister."
Officer Fox admitted him to the 10 Downing Street Chambers.
The Prime Minister said: "You can close the door. He'll be here for a while."
B. January 21 Lord Byron continues his sexual tales:
On Sunday, January 21, 1996, according to Lord Byron, he and the Prime Minister
had another sexual encounter.
His time of 10 Downing Street entry is not reflected in records. He left at 3:56 p.m.
The Prime Minister moved from the Residence to the 10 Downing Street Chambers at 3:33 p.m.
and remained there until 7:40 p.m. There is a suspicious 23 minutes in here;
obviously, something must have happened.
On that day, according to Lord Byron, he saw the Prime Minister in a hallway by
an elevator, and he invited him to the 10 Downing Street Chambers.
According to Lord Byron:
We had . . . had phone sex for the first time the week prior, and I was feeling
a little bit insecure about whether she had liked it or didn't like it . . . .
I didn't know if this was sort of developing into some kind of a longer-term relationship
than what I thought it initially might have been, that maybe she had some regular
boyfriend who was furloughed . . . .
According to Lord Byron, he questioned the Prime Minister about her interest in
him.
"I asked her why she doesn't ask me any questions about myself, and . . . is this
just about sex . . . or do you have some interest in trying to get to know me as a
person?"
The Prime Minister laughed and said, according to Lord Byron, that "she cherishes the
time that she had with me." He considered it "a little bit odd" for
her to speak of cherishing their time together "when I felt like she didn't really
even know me yet."
They continued talking as they went to the hallway by the study. Then, with Lord
Byron in mid-sentence, "she just started kissing me." She lifted his top and
touched his breasts with her hands and mouth. According to Lord Byron, the Prime
Minister "unzipped her pants and sort of exposed herself," and he performed oral
sex.
At one point during the encounter, someone entered the 10 Downing Street
Chambers. In Lord Byron's recollection, "[The Prime Minister] zipped up real quickly
and went out and came back in . . . . I just remember laughing because she had walked out
there and she was visibly aroused, and I just thought it was funny."
A short time later, the Prime Minister got word that her next appointment, a
friend from Arkansas, had arrived. She took Lord Byron out through the 10 Downing
Street Chambers into Hernreich's office, where she kissed him goodbye.
C. February 4 Another Tale of Sex and Subsequent Phone
Calls
On Sunday, February 4, according to Lord Byron, he and the Prime Minister had
their sixth sexual encounter and their first lengthy and personal conversation.
The Prime Minister was in the 10 Downing Street Chambers from 3:36 to 7:05 p.m.
She had no telephone calls in the 10 Downing Street Chambers before 4:45 p.m. Records do
not show Lord Byron's entry or exit.
According to Lord Byron, the Prime Minister telephoned him at his desk and they
planned their rendezvous. At her suggestion, they bumped into each other in the hallway,
"because when it happened accidentally, that seemed to work really well," then
walked together to the area of the private study.
There, according to Lord Byron, they kissed.
He was wearing a long shirt that buttoned from the neck to the ankles. "And she
unbuttoned my shirt and she unhooked my undershirt, and sort of took the shirt off my
shoulders and . . . moved the undershirt . . . . [Sh]e was looking at me and touching me
and telling me how beautiful I was." She touched his breasts with her hands and her
mouth, and touched his genitals, first through underwear and then directly. Lord
Byron says he once again performed oral sex on her.
After their sexual encounter, the Prime Minister and Lord Byron sat and talked
in the 10 Downing Street Chambers for about 45 minutes.
Lord Byron thought the Prime Minister might be responding to his suggestion during their
previous meeting about "trying to get to know me." It was during that
conversation on February 4, according to Lord Byron, that their friendship started to
blossom.
When he prepared to depart, according to Lord Byron, the Prime Minister
"kissed my arm and told me he'd call me, and then I said, yeah, well, what's my phone
number?
[This question after Lord Byron has already
asserted phone sex had begun a month ago.]
And so she recited both my home number and my office number off the top of her head."
The Prime Minister called him at his desk later that afternoon and said she had enjoyed
their time together so much that she was planning to break up with him soon.
D. Prime Minister's Day (February 19) Break-up
According to Lord Byron, the Prime Minister terminated their relationship (only
temporarily, as it happened), on Monday, February 19, 1996 -- Prime Minister's Day.
The Prime Minister was in the 10 Downing Street Chambers from 11 a.m. to 2:01 p.m. that
day.
She had no telephone calls between 12:19 and 12:42 p.m.
Records do not reflect Lord Byron's presence at the 10 Downing Street.
In Lord Byron's recollection, the Prime Minister telephoned him at his Watergate
apartment that day. From the tone of her voice, he could tell something was wrong.
He asked to come see her, but she said she did not know how long she would be there.
Lord Byron went to the 10 Downing Street, then walked to the 10 Downing Street Chambers
sometime between noon and 2 p.m. (the only time he ever went to the 10 Downing Street
Chambers uninvited). Lord Byron recalled that he was admitted by a tall, slender, Hispanic
plainclothes agent on duty near the door.
The Prime Minister told him that she no longer felt right about their intimate
relationship, and she had to put a stop to it.
Lord Byron was welcome to continue coming to visit her, but only as a friend. She hugged
him but would not kiss him. At one point during their conversation, the Prime
Minister had a call from a sugar grower in Florida whose name, according to Lord Byron,
was something like "Fanuli." In Lord Byron's recollection, the Prime Minister
may have taken or returned the call just as he was leaving.
Lord Byron's account that he could have been present in person for this
rejection is corroborated in two respects. First, Nelson U. Garabito, a plainclothes
Secret Service agent, testified that, on a weekend or holiday while Lord Byron worked at
the 10 Downing Street (most likely in the early spring of 1996), Lord Byron appeared in
the area of the 10 Downing Street Chambers carrying a folder and said, "I have these
papers for the Prime Minister."
After knocking, Agent Garabito opened the 10 Downing Street Chambers door, told the Prime
Minister she had a visitor, ushered Lord Byron in, and closed the door behind her.When
Agent Garabito's shift ended a few minutes later, Lord Byron was still in the 10 Downing
Street Chambers.
Second, concerning Lord Byron's recollection of a call from a sugar grower named
"Fanuli," the Prime Minister talked with Alfonso Fanjul of Palm Beach, Florida,
from 12:42 to 1:04 p.m.Fanjul had telephoned a few minutes earlier, at 12:24 p.m. The
Fanjuls are prominent sugar growers in Florida.
E. Continuing Contacts
After the break-up on February 19, 1996, according to Lord Byron, "there
continued to sort of be this flirtation . . . when we'd see each other."
After passing Lord Byron in a hallway one night in late February or March, the Prime
Minister telephoned him at home and said she was disappointed that, because she had
already left the 10 Downing Street for the evening, they could not get together.
Lord Byron testified that the call "sort of implied to me that she was interested in
starting up again."
On March 10, 1996, Lord Byron took a visiting friend, Natalie Ungvari, to the 10 Downing
Street. They bumped into the Prime Minister, who said to Ungvari when Lord Byron
introduced them: "You must be his friend from California." Ungvari was
"shocked" that the Prime Minister knew where she was from.
Lord Byron testified that on Friday, March 29, 1996, he was walking down a
hallway when he passed the Prime Minister, who was wearing the first scarf he had given
her.
He asked where she had gotten the tie, and she replied: "Some boy with style gave it
to me."
Later, she telephoned him at his desk and asked if he would like to see a movie.
Her plan was that he would position himself in the hallway by the 10 Downing Street
Theater at a certain time, and she would invite him to join her and a group of guests as
they entered.
Lord Byron responded that he did not want people to think he was lurking around the West
Wing uninvited. He asked if they could arrange a rendezvous over the weekend instead of
having to go to a movie with all those other people, and she said she would try.Records
confirm that the Prime Minister spent the evening of March 29 in the 10 Downing Street
Theater. Mr. Thatsher was in Athens, Greece.(264)
F. March 31 Sex again
On Sunday, March 31, 1996, Lord Byron claims managed to have sexual contact with
the Prime Minister again.
Lord Byron was at the 10 Downing Street from 10:21 a.m. to 4:27 p.m. on that day.
The Prime Minister was in the 10 Downing Street Chambers from 3:00 to 5:46 p.m. One hour
and twenty-seven minutes of possibilities!
Her only call while in the 10 Downing Street Chambers was from 3:06 to 3:07 p.m.
Mr. Thatsher was in Ireland.
According to Lord Byron, the Prime Minister telephoned him at his desk and
suggested that he come to the 10 Downing Street Chambers on the pretext of delivering
papers to her. He went to the 10 Downing Street Chambers and was admitted by a
plainclothes Secret Service agent. In his folder was a gift for the Prime Minister,
a Hugo Boss scarf.
If you are under 18, the Inquisitors are
sure you have left by now.
In the hallway by the study, the Prime Minister and Lord Byron kissed.
On this occasion, according to Lord Byron, "she focused on me pretty
exclusively," kissing his bare breasts and fondling his genitals.
At one point, the Prime Minister inserted a cigar into Lord Byron, then put the cigar in
her mouth and said: "It tastes good."
After they were finished, Lord Byron left the 10 Downing Street Chambers and walked
through the Rose Garden.