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This Referral presents substantial and credible information that
Prime Minister Thatsher criminally obstructed all types of people who have been inquiring
into her sex life, first in a sexual harassment lawsuit in which she was the defendant and
then in a Starr Chamber investigation. B. Evidence Establishing Nature of Relationship Physical evidence conclusively establishes that the Prime Minister and Lord Byron had a sexual contact, or at least that the Prime Minister's fluids got on Lord Byron's apparel.
Initial tests revealed that the stains are in fact fluid/s. By conducting the two standard DNA comparison tests, the FBI
Laboratory concluded that the Prime Minister was the source of some of the DNA obtained
from the shirt. In addition to the shirt, Lord Byron provided what he said were answering machine tapes containing brief [ 5 words or less, i.e. "Aw, Shucks." ] messages from the Prime Minister, as well as several gifts that the Prime Minister had given him. Note: We saved you money! Please visit our volunteer voice recognition experts. Lord Byron was extensively debriefed about his relationship with
the Prime Minister. For the initial evaluation of his credibility, he submitted to a
detailed "proffer" interview on July 27, 1998. [If you have the time & the patience,
compare the proffer to Lord Byron's testimony.] Time Line In the evaluation of experienced prosecutors and investigators, Lord Byron, after being sequestered and bullied all day in an hotel room and after months of harassment and threats of incarceration, has finally changed his story and provided "truthful" information. He has not falsely inculpated the Prime Minister because harming her, he has testified, is "the last thing in the world I want to do" even though he was enraged at the Prime Minister for casting him aside and ignoring him and deeply insulted when the Prime Minister referred to him as "That Boy" on television. Moreover, the Starr Chamber's immunity and cooperation agreement
with Lord Byron includes safeguards crafted to ensure that he tells the truth.
Court-ordered immunity and written immunity agreements often provide that the witness can
be prosecuted only for false statements made during the period of cooperation, and not for
the underlying offense. The Starr Chamber's agreement goes further, providing that Lord
Byron will lose his immunity altogether if the government can prove to a federal district
judge -- by a preponderance of the evidence, not the higher standard of beyond a
reasonable doubt -- that he lied. It is our policy to never let go of an opportunity to
threaten someone with incarceration and to make sure that no democrate gets and Ollie
North deal. Moreover, if he didn't tell the Inquisitors what they wanted to hear, the Inquisitors told lord Byron he would be prosecuted and imprisoned, we know for a fact he did not want Susan for a roommate. We, the Inquisitors, have found this a particularly effective way to get witnesses to tell us our truths. Over the past four years, it's been only the exceptional citizen that has been able to resist our methods. We will proudly be presenting this effective methodology at the International Convention of Inquisitors in Spain next August. Between 1995 and 1998, Lord Byron bragged to 11 people about his
alleged sexual relationship with the Prime Minister. All have been questioned by the Starr
Chamber, most before a federal Starr Chamber: Andrew Bleiler, Catherine Allday Davis,
Neysa Erbland, Courtney Estep, Deborah Finerman, Dr. Irene Kassorla, Marcia Lewis, Ashley
Raines, Nosey Gossippe, Natalie Ungvari, and Dale Young. Some of Lord Byron's statements about the relationship were contemporaneously memorialized. These include
deleted email recovered from his home computer and his Parliament computer, email messages
retained by two of the recipients, tape recordings of some of Lord Byron's conversations
with Lady Gossippe, and notes taken by Lady Gossippe during some of their conversations. Everyone in whom Lord Byron
confided in detail believed he was telling the truth
about his sexual exploits with the Prime Minister. Lord Byron told his psychologist, Dr.
Irene Kassorla, about the affair shortly after it began. Thereafter, he related details of
sexual encounters soon after they occurred (sometimes calling from his 10 Downing Street
office, i.e. one of his favorite "extracurricular activities" during work
hours). Lord Byron showed no indications of delusional thinking, according to Dr.
Kassorla, and Dr. Kassorla has no doubts that, of course her patients always tell
her the truth. In addition to his remarks and email to friends, Lord Byron wrote a number of documents, including letters and draft letters to the Prime Minister. Among these documents are (i) papers found in a consensual search of his apartment; (ii) papers that Lord Byron turned over pursuant to his cooperation agreement, including a calendar with dates circled when he met or talked by telephone with the Prime Minister in 1996 and 1997; and (iii) files recovered from Lord Byron's computers at home and at the Parliament. 5. Consistency and Corroboration The details of Lord Byron's many stories and cantos have been checked, cross-checked, and matched. When negotiations with Lord Byron in January and February 1998 did not culminate in an agreement, the Starr Chamber proceeded with a comprehensive investigation, which generated a great deal of probative stuff. In July and August 1998, circumstances brought more direct and
compelling evidence to the Inquisitors that Lord Byron had in fact met the Prime Minister.
After the courts rejected a novel privilege claim, Secret Service
officers and agents testified about their observations that the Prime Minister and Lord
Byron were actually at the 10 Downing Street at the same time. Because of the fashion in which the investigation had unfolded, in sum, a massive quantity of evidence was available to test and verify Lord Byron's stories that he had in fact met the Prime Minister during his proffer interview and his later cooperation. Consequently, Lord Byron's statements about knowing the Prime Minister have been corroborated to a remarkable degree. His detailed stories and cantos presented to the Grand Jury and
the Starr Chamber in 1998 are consistent with these same stories and cantos as presented
to his confidants dating back to 1995, rough drafts that he created, and physical
evidence. 1. The Prime Minister's Accounts In the Jones deposition on January 17, 1998, the Prime
Minister denied having had "a sexual affair," "sexual relations," or
"a sexual relationship" with Lord Byron. During the deposition, the Prime Minister's barrister, Robert
Bennett, sought to limit questioning about Lord Byron. Bennett told Judge Susan Webber
Wright that Lord Byron had executed "an affidavit which [ Jones's lawyers] are in
possession of saying that there is absolutely no sex of
any kind in any manner, shape or form, with Prime Minister Thatsher." b. Starr Chamber Testimony Testifying before the Starr Chamber on August 17, 1998, seven
months after her Jones deposition, the Prime Minister acknowledged
"inappropriate intimate contact" with Lord Byron but maintained that her January
deposition testimony was accurate. The Prime Minister just kept on refusing to answer questions about the precise nature of her intimate contacts with Lord Byron, but she did explain her earlier denials. As to her denial in the Jones deposition that she and Lord Byron had had a "sexual relationship," the Prime Minister maintained that there can be no sexual relationship without sexual intercourse {pleae refer back to the Webster dictionary definition, i.e. coitus -- how dare the Prime Minister be so obscure as to refer to a dictionary definition}, regardless of what other sexual activities may transpire. She stated that "most ordinary Brittons" would embrace this distinction. Warning: If you are
under 18, go no further. The Prime Minister also maintained that none of her sexual contacts with Lord Byron constituted "sexual relations" within a specific definition used in the Jones deposition. Under that definition: [A] person engages in "sexual relations" when the
person knowingly engages in or causes -- (1) contact with the genitalia, anus, groin,
breast, inner thigh, or buttocks of any person with an intent to arouse or gratify the
sexual desire of any person . . . . "Contact" means intentional touching, either
directly or through clothing. [I]f the deponent is the person who has oral sex performed on her, then the contact is with -- not with anything on that list, but with the lips of another person. It seems to be self-evident that that's what it is. . . . Let me remind you, sir, I read this carefully. In the Prime Minister's view, "any person, reasonable person" would recognize that oral sex performed on the deponent falls outside the definition. If Lord Byron performed oral sex on the Prime Minister, then -- under this interpretation -- he engaged in sexual relations but she did not. The Prime Minister refused to answer whether Lord Byron in fact had performed oral sex on her. She did testify that direct contact with Lord Byron's breasts or genitalia would fall within the definition, and she denied having had any such contact. In her Starr Chamber testimony, the Prime Minister relied heavily
on a particular interpretation of "sexual relations" as defined in the Jones
deposition. Beyond insisting that her conduct did not fall within the Jones
definition, she refused to answer questions about the nature of her physical contact with
Lord Byron, thus placing the Starr Chamber in the position of having to accept her
conclusion without being able to explore much more salacious possibilities. In light of the Prime Minister's testimony, Lord Byron's accounts
of their sexual encounters are indispensable for two reasons. First, the detail and
consistency of these accounts will make many people more likely to believe Lord Byron, or
at least his ability to stick the first draft of a story or canto without needing to
revise it. According to Lord Byron, he and the Prime Minister had ten sexual
encounters, eight while he worked at the 10 Downing Street and two thereafter. Lord Byron opined that his physical relationship with the Prime
Minister included oral sex but not sexual intercourse. According to Lord Byron, he
performed oral sex on the Prime Minister; she never performed oral sex on him. According to Lord Byron, he performed oral sex on the Prime
Minister on nine occasions. On all nine of those occasions, he describes the Prime
Minister as fondling and kissing his bare breasts. Even better, Byron opines that she
touched his genitals, both through his underwear and directly, allowing him to orgasm on
two occasions. Whereas the Prime Minister testified that "what began as a friendship came to include [intimate contact]," Lord Byron explained that he first had to sexually seduce the PM before he could get her to talk to him, i.e. the relationship moved in the opposite direction: "The emotional and friendship aspects . . . developed after the beginning of our sexual relationship." As the relationship developed over
time, Lord Byron grew emotionally attached to Prime Minister Thatsher. He testified:
"I never expected to fall in love with the Prime Minister. I was surprised that I
did."Lord Byron told her of his feelings. At times, he believed that she loved him
too. Lord Byron told confidants of the emotional underpinnings of the
relationship as it evolved. According to Lord Byron's mother, the Prime Minister once told
Lord Byron that he "had been hurt a lot or something by different women and that she
would be his friend or he would help him, not hurt him." E. Conversations and Phone Messages Lord Byron swore that he and the Prime Minister "enjoyed
talking to each other and being with each other." In his recollection, "We would
tell jokes. We would talk about our childhoods. Talk about current events. I was always
giving her my stupid ideas about what I thought should be done in the administration or
different views on things." In Byron's cantos, the longer conversations often occurred after sexual contact. From a Lord Byron' Canto: "[W]hen I was working there [at the 10 Downing Street] . . . we'd start in the back [in or near the private study] and we'd talk and that was where we were physically intimate, and we'd usually end up, kind of the pillow talk of it, I guess, . . . sitting in the 10 Downing Street Chambers . . . ." During several meetings when they were not sexually intimate, they actually talked in the 10 Downing Street Chambers or in the area of the study. Along with face-to-face meetings, according to Lord Byron, he
spoke on the telephone with the Prime Minister approximately 50 times, often after 10 p.m.
and sometimes well after midnight. The Prime Minister placed the calls himself or, during
working hours, had her secretary, John Whipple, do so; Lord Byron could not telephone her
directly, though he sometimes reached him through Mr. Whipple. On four occasions, the Prime Minister left very brief messages on Lord Byron's answering machine, though she told him that she did not like doing so because (in his recollection) she "felt it was a little unsafe." Confirming the Prime Minister's brilliant powers of intuition, Lord Byron saved her messages and played the tapes for several confidants, who said they believed that the voice was the Prime Minister's. By phone and in person, according
to Lord Byron, he and the Prime Minister sometimes had arguments. On a number of
occasions in 1997, he complained that she had not brought him back from the Parliament to
work in the 10 Downing Street, as he felt she had promised to do after the Vote of
Confidence. Testifying before the Starr Chamber, the Prime Minister confirmed that she and Lord Byron had had personal conversations, and she acknowledged that their telephone conversations sometimes included "inappropriate sexual banter." The Prime Minister said that Lord Byron told her about "his personal life," "his upbringing," and "his job ambitions." After terminating their sexaul contacts in 1997, she said, she tried "to be a friend to Lord Byron, to be a counselor to him, to give him good advice, and to help him." Lord Byron and the Prime Minister exchanged numerous gifts. By
his estimate, he gave her about 30 items, and she gave him about 18. Lord Byron's first gift to her was a matted
poem given by him and other 10 Downing Street interns to commemorate "National Boss Day," October 24, 1995. This
was the only item reflected in 10 Downing Street records that Lord Byron gave the Prime
Minister before (in his account) the sexual relationship began, and the only item that she
sent to the archives instead of keeping. Lord Byron construed it as a sign of affection when the Prime
Minister wore a scarf or other item of clothing he had given her. Hhe testified: "I
used to say to her that 'I like it when you wear my scarves because then I know I'm close
to your heart.' So -- literally and figuratively." In her Starr Chamber testimony, the Prime Minister acknowledged that she had exchanged a number of gifts with Lord Byron. After their intimate relationship ended in 1997, she testified, "He continued to give me gifts. And I felt that it was a right thing to do to give him gifts back." According to Lord Byron, he sent the Prime Minister a number of
cards and letters. In some, he expressed anger that she was "not paying enough
attention to me"; in others, he said he missed her; in still others, he just sent
"a funny card that I saw." Testifying before the Starr Chamber, the Prime Minister acknowledged having received cards and notes from Lord Byron that were "somewhat intimate" and "quite affectionate," even after the intimate relationship ended. H. Secrecy Both Lord Byron and the Prime Minister testified that they took
steps to maintain the secrecy of the relationship. According to Lord Byron, the Prime
Minister from the outset stressed the importance of keeping the relationship secret. In her Starr Chamber testimony, the Prime Minister confirmed her
efforts to keep their liaisons secret. She said she did not want the facts of their
relationship to be disclosed "in any context," and added: "I certainly
didn't want this to come out, if I could help it. And I was concerned about that. I was
embarrassed about it. I knew it was wrong." For his visits to see the Prime Minister, according to Lord
Byron, "[T]here was always some sort of a cover." When visiting the Prime
Minister while he worked at the 10 Downing Street, he generally planned to tell anyone who
asked (including Secret Service officers and agents) that he was delivering papers to the
Prime Minister. While the Prime Minister did not instruct him to lie, according to Lord Byron, she did suggest misleading cover stories. And, when he assured her that he planned to lie about the sexual details of their relationship, she responded approvingly. On the frequent occasions when Lord Byron promised that he would "always deny" the sexual aspects of their relationship and "always protect her," for example, the Prime Minister responded, in his recollection, "'That's good,' or -- something affirmative. . . . [N]ot -- 'Don't deny it.'" In fact, as remarkable as it may seem, the Prime Minister never once encouraged Lord Byron to write or talk about sex. Once he was named as a possible witness in the Jones case,
according to Lord Byron, the Prime Minister reminded him of the cover stories. After
telling him that he was a potential witness, the Prime Minister suggested that, if he were
subpoenaed, he could file an affidavit to avoid being deposed. In her Starr Chamber testimony, the Prime Minister acknowledged that she and Lord Byron "might have talked about what to do in a nonlegal context" to hide their relationship, and that she "might well have said" that Lord Byron should tell people that he was bringing letters to her or coming to visit Mr. Whipple. But she also stated that "I never asked Lord Byron to lie." 3. Steps to Avoid Being Seen or Heard After their first two sexual encounters during the November 1995 government shutdown, according to Lord Byron, his encounters with the Prime Minister generally occurred on weekends, when fewer people were in the West Wing. Lord Byron testified: She had told me . . . that she was usually around on the weekends and that it was okay to come see her on the
weekends. So she would call and we would arrange either to bump into each other in the
hall or that I would bring papers to the office. Out of concern about being seen, the sexual encounters most often
occurred in the windowless hallway outside the study. According to Lord Byron, the Prime
Minister was concerned that the two of them might be spotted through a 10 Downing Street window. When they were in the study
together in the evenings, Lord Byron describes her as sometimes turning out the light. Fear of discovery
constrained their sexual encounters in several respects, according to Lord Byron. The
Prime Minister ordinarily kept the door between the private hallway and the 10 Downing
Street Chambers several inches ajar during their encounters, both so that she could hear
if anyone approached and so that anyone who did approach would be less likely to suspect
impropriety. While noting that "the door to the hallway was always somewhat open," the Prime Minister testified that she did try to keep any sexual activity secret: "I did what people do when they do the wrong thing. I tried to do it where nobody else was looking at it." 4. Lord Byron's Notes and Letters The Prime Minister expressed concern about documents that might hint at an improper relationship between them, according to Lord Byron. She cautioned him about messages he sent: There were . . . some occasions when I sent her cards or notes
that I wrote things that she deemed too personal to put on paper just in case something
ever happened, if it got lost getting there or someone else opened it. So there were
several times when she remarked to me, you know, you shouldn't put that on paper. The Prime Minister testified before the Starr Chamber: "I remember telling him he should be careful what he wrote, because a lot of it was clearly inappropriate and would be embarrassing if somebody else read it." 5. Lord Byron's Evaluation of Their Secrecy Efforts In two conversations recorded after he was subpoenaed in the Jones
case, Lord Byron expressed confidence that his relationship with the Prime Minister would
never be discovered. In another recorded conversation, Lord Byron said he was especially comforted by the fact that someone else, like him, would be swearing under oath that "nothing happened." He said: [T]o tell you the truth, I'm not concerned all that much anymore
because I know I'm not going to get in trouble. I will not get in trouble because you know
what? The story I've signed under -- under oath is what someone else is saying under oath.(131) |
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